So I’ve been out shopping for dining room tables and heaven forfend, it looks like I might actually be buying a new one, not an antique. The table is so beautifully made and lovingly finished that mixed in with other pieces you might never even notice. But truthfully, outside of upholstered pieces and IKEA Billy bookcases, I’m not sure I own any new furniture. I can tell you where and when every item was purchased and the story behind it. Which leads me to wonder if that is only my personal obsession? Does provenance really matter to you? Do you care if something is actually antique? Is it looking good and looking right that matters? Is it the story of finding something that matters? Is it the right price?
For me, nothing reflects those questions back more that my addiction to blue-green glass bottles and fishing floats. Having been in Tokyo for the last nine years I have been buying the Japanese variety almost exclusively – you never know a Chinese or Korean piece could have slipped in, but I don’t think so. I look for glass that has distinctive characteristics, from makers marks to hand blown evidence like bubbles and I particularly love wonky necks, spouts and glass screw tops. The floats I have gathered from shrine sale markets and from fisherman directly as they are considered obsolete and can sometimes be traded for a really yummy box of cookies. But funnily enough, while I consider that I have found floats “at the source,” many people think that beach combing them – finding them washed up on the shore – is the only true way to collect them.
The popularity of this kind of glass has skyrocketed in the last few years to the point of becoming almost ubiquitous. Floats and bottles are in all the catalogs and on all the flash sale sites. So the question is, does provenance matter?
At prices like these, I think the answer is most definitely yes. And if you read the fine print, it’s fairly fuzzy in its implications of age and history. We all know the colors are wrong and that these floats were never used, but if you like these colors do you care?
What if you stumble across a store in Bali selling floats that arguably were made for the tourist trade? Does that make them more interesting or better than ones bought from a catalog back in the USA?
For me personally, there is just no comparison to a variety of well used floats collected over time. The antique soba bowl holding them doesn’t hurt either. But you all knew I’d say that and I am not sure everyone would agree with me.
What about these large floats from Wisteria? Again, the fine print says handmade – which they may well be – but there is only an implication that these were used, because in fact, they were not. Note how conveniently the glass blowing pontil falls inside each float, giving it a perfect flat end so that you can style it nicely and easily on your bookshelf or coffee table – not something fishermen prioritized. But the color and texture of the glass looks lovely. The price isn’t half bad either, especially if you are aware that they are recently made and not antique.
But do you think it truly compares to the real thing?
Bottles with fishing style ropes have become more popular and we all covet that rope bottle lamp that Tom Scheerer and Steven Gambrel love to use. Both of them have perfected the way of blending something that looks old with things that actually are old to create a seamless whole. I’m not sure this bottle does that. And bottles with fishermen ropes seem a bit made up to me actually…
The really giant bottles I collect were often covered in protective wicker for transport. Called demijohns, this was the method of choice for transporting liquids for thousands of years – even the ancient Egyptians encased their bottles in papyrus. Over time, many of the bottles lost their degradable wicker casing. leaving just the bottle. While you can find wicker-cased ones all over Europe, I had never seen any of the Japanese ones – used mostly for sake and other alcohol – covered in anything. That is, until right before I left. Can you believe this charmer actually has a bit of ivy growing on it? Swoon-worthy!
New ones, like these from Pottery Barn, abound on the market. Again the fine print gives the impression of antiquity and use, but I am sure these bottles are new. Would you care? Or would you rather lug some back from that romantic trip in the south of France?
I’m finding the shapes and details of the mass market ones to be lacking in variety and interest compared to the ones I have hunted up. Variety really is another advantage of vintage and antique.
So before you start feeling bad for me that I have left the land of blue-green glass behind, take a look at one of my most recent Doha finds. Mostly likely Lebanese or from that region, these rustic forms of demijohns were used to transport regional liquids like olive oil. The protective wicker looks like a birds next and the bottle is crooked and handmade, just the way I like it. Since this photo it has cleaned up nicely and come to hang out with its new Japanese friends. The language barrier is slowing them down a bit, but I am sure they will get along fine.
If you think this post was just one big orgy of self-congratulation that my glass made it through the move intact, then you are correct. But I’d love to hear from you on this subject. Does provenance matter to you? Do you care about true antiquity?
If you want to read more about these treasures you can scroll through posts in the glass floats and glass bottles tags or even read the post that started it all: Buoys, Bottles and Bargains…the Rainy Day Special at Kawagoe
Kazz
Well, personally I don’t care about antiquity, but provenance does matter to me. Mostly, though, the provenance that matters to me is my own personal story of how I acquired it. So if something was a special find, or awesome price, or funny bargaining experience, gift from a great friend, etc, that counts to me as provenance worth remembering. And that’s true for not just furniture or art, but also clothes, books, and stuff in general. Basically, I just love a good story.
Tokyo Jinja
The story and the associations are key for me too. But I can’t resist a bit of proper provenance either.
jackie
Kazz is clever…
I like the idea that something I am touching has been used in the past. I like the idea of the fingers that toutched it leaving a little story behind (with the oil?) and that I am a custodian of something that will go on living after I go.
I am not sure about things made to be pretty copies of what was once useful. Perhaps in part because so much of what was once made for work is solid and the difference can be felt. That said, something made in the same way as it has been for centuries, such as a cupboard made without or with few nails, is a great way to support artisans and artistry today and feels like the continuity of a tradition.
I am about to buy some reconditioned lamps from the 1920s and 1930s. The cloth covered sleeves and the worn through chrome add to the great shape and the heaviness of the materials. I am paying for that heft and for those signs of previous love in part because I delight in the idea that the light could tell stories of a domesticity (or work life) as foreign to me as a moonwalk…
Coulda shoulda woulda
It’s that theory behind the blink theory re antiques isn’t it? You just know and it comes with literally a certain vibe and an energy. It sounds a bit new ages but that is why we pay crazy amounts for old things. It’s the silent stories it carries. Pottery Barnes cheaper than Christies for a very good reason I say…
curt
It matters to me that the item is authentic. If it presents itself as an antique – then it should be one. If it is a gift from a friend – then it might get a pass as a fake antique – as long as it’s an authentic gift. 🙂
lisa jardine
it matters. i’ve seen the fakes and to me they look that way. too perfect. i love the japanese term wabisabi – which finds beauty in the imperfect. i’ll stick with the real deal, thank you very much.
Tokyo Jinja
I’m with you there. I prefer that my budget keeps me away from perfect museum quality pieces too. As I always say, patina over perfection!
La Pouyette - Karin
Yes! Authenticity and Provenance really matters to me. But I’m an antique dealer, so, it goes without saying that an object or piece of furniture has to be authentic when antique (or described as antique).
Apart from that – I do not mind new or modern pieces as long as they have a distinctive design and are not reproductions of old pieces, pretending to be old/antique or so…
Unfortunately, everything which is – or become – “a la mode” get copied or/and reproduced.
Had a good collection of old French fishing floats, sold them for around 25-30 Euro each, so, the real thing is not always that expensive.
Love your blog, just found it by pure chance.
So, so rare in this world, particularly in the blog world, that somebody, like you, has a knowledge, paying attention to the details, not to mention the effort you make by research the history etc….
Well done!
Greetings from the Périgord,
Karin
You may like to visit my blog, last post was about antique tables 🙂
Sorry for my English 🙁
Tokyo Jinja
Thank you so much for that lovely compliment. I’m off to take a look at your blog.
La Pouyette - Karin
Hi again, if you find a minute or two – please have a look here:
http://lapouyette-unddiedingedeslebens.blogspot.fr/2011_10_01_archive.html
just for fun 🙂 k
George
I’m high five on this one… provenance matters! & Great find! 😀